The Lines and History of the von der Lippe in Germany

In the following the different lines of the “Turnierkragen “ von der Lippe and other families with the same name will be shortly presented.

I. Genealogy

A. Oldest Genealogie up to the Separation

The following persons are part of the oldes geneaology, either directly part of the family or tightly connected. The dates are either dates of birth/death or dates where these people are mentioned.

Meinricus de Grove (mentioned in record 1171)
Craph (Kraft) and Isseith (Isfrid) de Grove (1173 mentioned for the first time)
Berthe de Grove (1229 mentioned for the first time)
Conradus (I.) de Hamelspringe (1180-1223)
Conradus (II.) de Hamelspringe (1219 - 1254)
Henricus (I.) de Lippia (1180-1198)
   with the sons
        Bertoldus de Hamelspringe
        Conradus(III.) de Hamelspringe
        Henricus (II.) de Lippia
        Amelungus de Lippia dictus de Grove
Conradus (I.) de Lippia (1198 - 1236)
Bertoldus de Hamelspringe (1224 - 1231)
Conradus (III.) de Hamelspringe (de Lippia?) (1266 - 1294)
Henricus (II.) de Lippia (1229 - 1261)
    with the sons
        Hermann (I.)
        Conrad (II.)
Amelungus (I.) de Lippia dictus de Grove (1219 -1261)
Hermannus (I.) de Lippia (1222 - 1270)
    with the sons
        Bertold (III.)
        Werner (II.)
Conradus (II.) de Lippia (1230/44 - 1275)
Wernherus (I.) de Lippia (1260 - 1261)
Bertoldus (I.) de Lippia (1260-1261)
Bertoldus (II.) de Lippia (1266 - 1294)
    with the sons
        Werner (III.)
        Conrad (III).
        Berthold (III.)
Wernherus (II.) de Lippia (1266 - 1292)
Hermannus (II.) de Lippia (1266)
Amelungus (II.) de Lippia (1266)
Elisabeth de Lippia (1266)
Wernerus (III.) de Lippia (1280 - 1335)
Conradus (III.) de Lippia (1280 - 1335)
Bertoldus (III.) de Lippia (1280 - 1335)
    with the children
        Werner (V.)
        Berthold (V).
        Rehner (Reineke, Reinhard, Reinolt)
        Robert (Ropert, Robracht, Robbeke)

B. Older Line of Vinsebeck (ceased to exist 1767)

Foundet by Reineke (VII.) (1548 - 1591). The grave of him and his wife Anna von Oeynhausen is still seated today in the chapel of Vinsebeck.

C. Younger Line of Vinsebeck (ceased to exist 1697) 

Founded by Bernd von der Lippe zu Vinsebeck (1548 - 9.9.1608). Erbherr (lord of the manor?) zu Vinsebeck (on the small manor). Married with Anna von der Borch zu Holzhausen (1560 - 1588)

D. Collateral Line of Godelsheim (ceased to exist [1759?])

Founded by Raban (1647 - 1674), the oldest son of Simon (II.)

E. Line of Wintrup (vivid)

Founded by Erich (1548 - 1588)

F.  Collateral Line of Ottenhausen (ceased to exist 1736)

Founded by Hermann Otto (died 25th April 1699).

II. Families with equal or near names

Beside the direct geneaology some other families with the same or nearly the same name exist(ed) in germany:

A. The noblemen von der or zur Lippe, later Counts and Princes

This line is dividing later into the following lines
    Princely Line Lippe-Detmold
    Manorial Count Line Lippe-Biesterfeld
    Manorial Count Line Lippe Weissenfels
    Princely Line Schaumburg-Lippe

It is propable that both, the dynasts von der Lippe with the rose and the masters and later ministerials (Ministerialen; difficult to translate, kind of official, subordinate, vasall) von der Lippe have the same ancestors incorporated by Bernhard and Hermann von der Lippe.

B. The Noblemen von der Lippe-Störmede

This line of masters and ministerials exists in the 12th and 13th century only. They shall be related with the Counts and Nobles von der Lippe, as the name alternates between de Lippia and de Störmede, Störmede is seated between Lippstadt and Geseke and the coat of arms shows a rose with 5 leaves.

C. The Ministerials von der Lippe of Lippe

This family of knights with the name von der Lippe (de Lippia) appears in the first half of the 13th century and vanishes in the first half of the 14th century. They are related to the noblemen von der Lippe in terms of ministeriality and they show a bush with five roses in their coat of arms to remember their parentage.

D. The castlemen von der Lippe of Stromberg

A little bit later as the miniterials of Lippe, but also still in the 13th century, a second lineage of ministerials with a rose seal that is completely identical to the seal of the dynasts appears in the castle of Stromberg. Stromberg is near Lippstadt in the north, owned by the diocese of Münster.

This family that vanishes in the 14th century is also related with the noblemen zur Lippe and of Störmede, with the bishops of Münster and Osnabrück and the monasteries of Marienfeld, Liesborn and Abdinghof.

E. The von der Lippe in Göttingen

This family had already citizen rights in Göttingen in the year 1328. The book of documents of the town Göttingen knows a Theodoricus de Lippia earliest in the year 1331.

F. The von der Lippe in Münster

Their coat of arms show a paw of a bear that repeats on the helmet.

G. The von der Lippe in Hamm

Refer to  Johann Diederich von Steines Westphäliche Geschichte, 2. Part (Lemgo 1755), page 838’9.

H. The von der Lippe called Hune

The von der Lippe called Hune with three rose embedded rings in their coat of arms had estates in Sayn, Berg and Geldern. They showed up in the 15th century and ceased to exist at the end of the 18th century.

Sayn is the former county Sayn-Wittgenstein and Geldern represents the province Gelderland of the netherlands which is named according to the town near the district Kleve at the lower rhine.

In the county Sayn they owned or run several farms like the castle Hartenfels (Westerwald) and Freusburg (Siegerland). This is referred to in the annals of the historic association of the lower rhine, see by Freiherr Anselm von Hoiningen-Huene (1872). In the protestantic chapel at Freusburg the bell still has a matching inscription, see

There are also estates proven in „Geldrischen“ like in the history of the family of the Schenk of Nydeggen ( f=false) published in 1860 and by several geneaologies like by Anton Fahne, Johann Diederich von Steinen and others.

I. The families von der Lipe in Mecklenburg, Pommern and the Mark

It is to be distinguished between the family of the mark (with a lion in their coat of arms) and the family from Mecklenburg and Pommern (with a tip of an arrow in their coat of arms). Both names propably originated from villages called Lipe or Lipen that exists several times in the north of Germany. The word lipa means lime-tree (linden) in the slavic language.

J. The Familie von der Lippe in Niedersachsen

This vivid line gave the prussian army a great number of officers and claims the same roots as the Turnierkragen von der Lippe by referring to the usage of the same coat of arms. But there is no evidence how that coat of arms came to that family and the roots of that family can be traced back only into the middle of the 18th century.

K. The von Lippe in Sachsen(Saxonia)

Ehrenfried Lobegott Lippe, Master of Cunnersdorf at Kamenz in Saxony (today township of Schöneichen), has been lifted into the empires nobility by Kaiser Franz II. 1805. The manor has been destroyed in the process of converting the farming into LPGs. Coat of Arms: In a blue shield three golden ears of corn coming out of a green hill from the bottom of the shield. On the coat of arms a crowned helmet with an open blue Adlersflug (flight of an eagle?) with a six edges star between the wings. The top of the helmet is blue golden. This branch is extinct as the last childless descendant, Gottfried von Lippe died at 10th march 1973.

L. Others

In the book of documents of Lübeck, Mecklenburg and Pommern are some other inhabitants mentioned living in Lübeck, Wismar, Rostock, Greifswald and Stettin, but the origins of the name for them is unknown, maybe from the town zur Lippe, of Lippstadt or from the older von der Lippe families. Proofed relations to the Turnierkragen von der Lippe are not available.