The german journal for family knowledge is an instituition of the german working society of genealogical organizations and the departmant of geneaology and heraldry of the association of the german history and antiquity societies (rather difficult translation, but that is the way it is printed on the cover).

In the issue 3 of the 16th year, march 1967 there is an article on the pages 666 to 668 by Christopf . Lindeiner gen. Wildau about a person called Dietrich von der Lippe, who has lived in the 17th century in the town of Frechen. According to the analysis of the author he was a member of the family of the dynasts with the rose in the coat of arms.